Sometimes you have to talk to the devils
A Conversation with Jan Urban
For a man who has been pounded by history, Jan Urban is surprisingly cheerful. His stories are wry, punctuated by laughter and pause-for-effect drama. Born into a family of stalwart communists in post-war Czechoslovakia, Jan grew up as “the perfect commie kid” ready to rescue wage slaves in the imperialist West. But a classroom fistfight, and a surprising confession by his father, a high-ranking party member, began to change all that. A trip to London in the swinging ‘60s – and a chance encounter with Paul McCartney – didn’t hurt either. After listening to the music of Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and the Beatles, Jan said, “no propaganda could win us over anymore.”
“Isn’t it the moment of most profound doubt that gives birth to new certainties?”
— Václav Havel
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Steve Sachoff is a journalist and editor with a background in political science and international relations who has lived and worked in Prague and Brussels. He has served as managing editor at a global business news and commodity price reporting agency, as senior editor at an international newswire service, and editor-in-chief of a pan-European publication on the security industry. Steve has also worked at the Czech Foreign Ministry’s Institute of International Relations and with the Czech humanitarian organization People in Need Foundation (Člověk v tísni).
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